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January 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda

January 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda. Authors:. Date: 2009-01-21. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group. TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Los Angeles, California 19-22 January, 2009

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January 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda

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  1. January 2009Mesh Meeting Agenda Authors: Date: 2009-01-21 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  2. IEEE 802.11s:Mesh NetworkingTask Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Los Angeles, California 19-22 January, 2009 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) d3e3e3@gmail.com +1-508-634-2066 Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  3. Venue Hyatt Century Plaza Los Angeles Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday • Administrivia and Status • TGs Process Presentation • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Wednesday • Security Presentations • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Thursday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • TGs Process Discussion • Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  5. Monday, 19 January 200919:30–21:30, Constellation II Room • Call ad hoc meeting to Order • Miscellaneous Announcements • Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Agenda Approved by unanimous consent • Approval of Minutes: • Dallas meeting minutes: 11-08/1431r0 • Approved by unanimous consent • Teleconference minutes approved by unanimous consent: • December 3, 17, 11-08/1449r0, 11-08/1464r0 • January 7, 11-09/16r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  6. Monday, 19 January 200919:30– 21:30 • Status of TGs Draft 2.06 and Comment Resolutions • “Some Notes from the Editor”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-09/92r0 • “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r32 • The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed • Presentation and Discussion on Process • “TGs Process, January”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r1 • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Moved, To update the comment resolution spreadsheet 11-08/493, based on the adoption of 11-08/1120r3 by TGs at the September 2008 802.11 meeting, by Closing the following CIDs with Counter: 340, 816, 867, 872, 964, 990, 1029, 1470, 1780, and 1816. • Approved by unanimous consent Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  7. Monday, 19 January 200919:30– 21:30 • “ERP Protection in IEEE 802.11s Mesh Network”, 11-08/1468r2, Ashish Shukla (Marvell) • Straw Poll: Do you think that ERP protection in 11s mesh network is not clear? • Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 11 • Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  8. Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! • The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership • In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings • No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. • No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings • Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  9. Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. • Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html • Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf • IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html • IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt • Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  10. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform • All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: • “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents orpatent claims • “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) • The above does not apply if the patentclaim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group • Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 • Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged • No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  11. Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  12. Call for Potentially Essential Patents • If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or • Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or • Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  13. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. • --------------------------------------------------------------- • See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  14. Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http://newton/11/attendance(Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) • Sign-in • Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT“sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  15. Tuesday, 20 January 200910:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • “Comment Resolution Plan”, 11-09/53r3, Guenael Strutt (Motorola) • “A vendor specific plan for centralized security”, 11-09/114r1, Tony Braskich (Motorola) • Straw Poll: Do you support the plan outlined in 11-09/114r1? • Yes: 13 No: 0 Don’t Know: 5 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  16. Tuesday, 20 January 200910:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room • Straw Polls from 11-08/1468r2: • Straw Poll: Do you think that 11s should define new rules to integrate ERP protection into 11s draft? • Yes: 3 No: 2 Abstain: 12 • Straw Poll: Subgroup interest? • MAC: 3 RFI: 0 Security: 6 General: 1 • Divide into subgroups: • Security – Jesse Walker • MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda • General – Guenael Strutt • Recombine and recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  17. Tuesday, 20 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • Secretary Selection • Due to expected minimal activity that required recording in the minutes, the Chair acted as Secretary. • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Divide into subgroups: • Security – Jesse Walker • MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda • General – Guenael Strutt • Recombine and Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  18. Tuesday, 20 January 200916:00 – 18:00, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Announced that 11-08/493r34 will have RFI and MAC resolutions entered. Also, all MAC, Security, and RFI comments are either resolved or assigned to an individual. • “11s Architecture and MIB Structure”, 11-09/52r2, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems) • Straw Poll: Do you think 11s need to do more work on 11s architecture as discussed in 11-09/52r2? • Yes: 1 No: 7 Don’t Know: 9 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  19. Tuesday, 20 January 200916:00 – 18:00, Constellation II Room • Straw Poll: Do you think 11s needs to do more work on 11s MIB structure as discussed in 11-09/52r2? • Yes: 7 No: 0 Don’t Know: 4 • “Congestion Control Comments Resolution”, 11-08/1463r0 (11-08/1465r1), Dee Denteneer (Phillip) (presenting for Bahareh Sadeghi (Intel)) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  20. Tuesday, 20 January 200916:00 – 18:00, Constellation II Room • Moved: To (1) adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/1465r1 with Column N (Issue Ident.) equal to “M-CC” and Column P (Resolution Status) equal to “Open”, (2) update the comment resolutions for CID 420 and 422 to “Reject”, and (3) to direct the Editor to incorporate the changes called for into the Draft. • Mover: Guenael Strutt Seconder: Jesse Walker • Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) • Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  21. Tuesday, 20 January 200919:30 – 21:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Announcement: 11-08/493r35 has RFI, MAC, and General changes up for consideration and the congestion control changes adopted earlier incorporated. • “Some fixes to mesh power management”, 11-09/121r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  22. Tuesday, 20 January 200919:30 – 21:30, Constellation II Room • What should a “peer link” really be called? • Consensus for “peering”. • The task group worked on open unassigned General category comments. All either had a resolution composed (but not voted due to the 4 hour rule) based on the “peer link” -> “peering” change or were assigned or were Editorial (and thus implicitly assigned to the Editor). • Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  23. Wednesday, 21 January 200908:00 – 10:00, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • “A vendor specific framework for centralized security”, 11-09/112r0, Tony Braskich • Motion: To adopt the Draft changes in 11-09/112r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, updating 11-08/493 as indicated in 11-09/113r0 Columns AC and AD. • Mover: Tony Braskich Seconder: Jesse Walker • Yes: 7 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  24. Wednesday, 21 January 200908:00 – 10:00, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the resolutions to CIDs 188, 374, 642, 763, 1039, 1065, and 1872 in 11-09/137r0 (“Security Resolutions Tuesday”) and Direct the Editor to update the Draft and to update 11-08/493 based on all entries in 11-09/137r0 with an “X” in Column X. • Mover: Jesse Walker Seconder: Tony Braskich • Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) • “Resolving a few SAE comments”, 11-09/145r1, Dan Harkins (Aruba Networks) • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  25. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Secretary Selection – Dee Denteneer • Motion: To amend the motion adopted earlier today in connection with 11-09/137r0 by replacing “1039” with “1038”. • Adopted by unanimous consent. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  26. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the comments resolutions in 11-08/493r35 with Column X equal to “MAC”. (Note: these are all Rejects and do not change the Draft.) • Mover: Jesse Walker Seconder: Dee Denteneer • Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  27. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the comments resolutions in 11-08/493r35 with Column X equal to “RFI-LA1”, and a Resolution Code of “Reject” or “Counter” and direct the Editor to update the Draft according to those with Resolution Code of “Counter”. • Mover: Guenael Strutt Seconder: Dee Denteneer • Yes: 9 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  28. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the comments resolutions in 11-08/493r35 with Column X equal to “G-LA1” or “G-LA2” and a Resolution Code of “Reject”, “Counter”, or “Accept” and direct the Editor to update the Draft according to those with Resolution Code of Counter or Accept. • Mover: Guenael Strutt Seconder: Tony Braskich • Yes: 10 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  29. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the comments resolutions in 11-08/493r36 with Column X equal to “G-LA3” and a Resolution Code of “Counter” and direct the Editor to update the Draft accordingly. • Mover: Dee Denteneer Seconder: Tony Braskich • Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  30. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Motion: To adopt the changes in 11-09/145r2 (“Resolving a few SAE comments”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, resolving CIDs 132, 134, 455, 1066, and 1894 with Counter and adding a reference to 11-09/145r2 to the Resolution Notes for CID 956. • Mover: Tony Braskich Seconder: Jesse Walker • Yes: 10 No: 1 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) • “MDA Comment Resolutions”, 11-09/151r0 (Excel 11-09/153r0, Word 11-09/154r0), Dee Denteneer (Phillips) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  31. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • “Proxies and Portals”, 11-09/115r0, Guenael Strutt (Motorola) • “Action Frames and Addressing”, 11-09/149r0, Guenael Strutt (Motorola) • “Some fixes to mesh power management (text)”, 11-09/122r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) • “Some fixes to Annex V.1”, 11-09/162r1, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) • “The need of ERP Protection in IEEE 802.11s Mesh Network”, 11-09/167r0, Ashish Shukla Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  32. Wednesday, 21 January 200913:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • “ERP Protection in Mesh Network”, 11-09/160r0, Ashish Shukla (Marvell) • “Normative Text for 11s MIB Structure”, 11-09/165r0, Liwen Chu (STMicroelectronics) • Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  33. Wednesday, 21 January 200916:00 – 18:00, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until Thursday 10:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  34. Pending Presentations / Straw Polls Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  35. Thursday, 22 January 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Motion re “MDA Comment Resolutions”, 11-09/151r0 • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  36. Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Call Meeting to Order • Secretary Selection (this session only) • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Motions: re 11-09/122 and 11-09/167 • Motion: re 11-09/160 • Motion: re 1-09/165 • Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  37. Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room • Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences • “TGs Process, January”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-09/TBDr1 • Other Technical Presentations • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  38. [Reference Information] • Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. • Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: • 11-08/493r36: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments • TGs Technical Editors: • Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … • Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 through D2.02 • Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 • W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08(also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  39. [Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes • November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 • September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 • September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 • July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 • May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 • May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 • March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 • January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 • November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 • September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 • Recent Teleconference Minutes • September 17, 11-08/1195r0 • October 15, 11-08/1230r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

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