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Poesia

Poesia. Si ha poesia ogni qual volta una composizione di segni sia suddivisa in unità ritmiche (versi) La poesia può essere usata per qualsiasi scopo e contenere qualsiasi cosa. E.g. Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day Shakespeare, Sonnet 18)

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Poesia

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  1. Poesia • Si ha poesia ogni qual volta una composizione di segni sia suddivisa in unità ritmiche (versi) • La poesia può essere usata per qualsiasi scopo e contenere qualsiasi cosa. • E.g. • Shall I compare thee to a summer’sday Shakespeare, Sonnet 18) • Life beforethe computer http://www.pagetutor.com/jokebreak/202.html

  2. Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? • Thou art more lovely and more temperate. • Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May, • And summer's lease hath all too short a date. • Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines, • And often is his gold complexion dimmed; • And every fair from fair sometime declines, • By chance, or nature's changing course, untrimmed; • But thy eternal summer shall not fade, • Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st, • Nor shall death brag thou wand'rest in his shade, • When in eternal lines to Time thou grow'st. • So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see, • So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

  3. Literal translations do not make a poem. • A poemis made up of: • Form (shape, musicality, lenght, graphicdevices, etc. • Content (allusions, metaphors, word playsetc…) Piano dell’espressione e piano del contenuto (Hjemslev) • Differentlevels of importance of the twodimensions…

  4. Tradurre poesia • Da Morini (in Zacchi-Morini 2002, p. 35): • Si tratta di individuare di volta in volta quali sono gli elementi più importanti di una poesia (ritmo, musicalità, contenuto (non-sense), forma - giochi di parole, allitterazioni) e questi andranno riprodotti con la massima precisione possibile, per il resto si cercherà di «salvare il salvabile». • Intraducibilità di una poesia falso problema…

  5. Translating poetry Read Bennett’s articleattached (http://www.translatum.gr/journal/2/translating-poetry.htm) • Poetry is neither just words, nor just metre. It is a music of words, and is a way of seeing and interpreting the world and our experience of it, and of conveying to the listener a heightened awareness of it through an intense concentration of metaphor and words in which the natural flow of speech sounds is moulded to some kind of formal pattern. Such patterns can never be the same after the act of translation • Pattern, obviously, is governed by the rules of syntax and prosody that language has inherited from the historical and social pressures that shaped it.

  6. A’ livella • Tema della diversità sociale (ricco e nobile marchese, povero e umile netturbino), riflesso nella diversità linguistica (italiano standard vs napoletano) • Struttura del testo in parte descrittiva (in dialetto un po’ italianizzato), in parte ‘teatrale’, fatta di dialogo, discorso diretto. • Quartine rima alternata (abab) Original text availableat: http://www.antoniodecurtis.com/poesia8.htm An English translationisavailableat: http://www.antoniodecurtis.org/livella.htm

  7. Caputo e Velleca • Ci perdonino gli ammiratori del Principe (noi stessi siamo tra i piu' accaniti sostenitori della sua arte) per aver osato "tradurre" una poesia bellissima come "'A livella" dal dialetto napoletano cosi' come e' stata scritta da Antonio de Curtis in dialetti di altre regioni o addirittura in altre lingue diverse dall'italiano. Il nostro intento è semplicemente quello di far conoscere questa opera in versi a quanti non conoscano la lingua napoletana....o se volete e' semplicemente un gioco. Col permesso del Principe a cui va il nostro incondizionato amore....

  8. Do theyreallysucceed in spreadingthis work throughtheirtranslation? • Whathappens with registers? • Whathappens with dialect? • Whathappens with form/structure? • Whathappens with content? • Is the meaningconveyed? • Is the illocutionary/perlocutionary force transmitted (Austen)? • Whatabout word plays, idioms, metaphors?

  9. Whatwouldyou do?Strofe 23-24

  10. You filthy pig! How dare you • Compare yourself to me? • My kinship is so noble and illustrious, • That it would put a royal prince to shame. • Poor little king get off your noble ship! • Why don’t you get it into that head of • Yours, that you’ve lost your marbles. • Don’t you know what death is? It’s the great leveller.

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