160 likes | 309 Vues
This journal prompt delves into the complexities of desire, sexuality, and gender as presented in Plato's *Symposium*. The discussion contrasts classical perspectives, including Foucault and Halperin’s views, with Aristophanes’ myth that suggests an essentialist understanding of sexuality. The varied depictions of male and female experiences raise questions about bias and idealization in ancient Greek thought. Key themes include the definitions of love and pederasty, the role of social conventions in shaping erotic relationships, and the significance of the Symposium in ancient sexual discourse.
E N D
Born This Way? Ideologies of eros in Plato’s Symposium
Journal Prompt Does Plato's Symposium seem to validate or to undercut Foucault and/or Halperin
Discussion • the aristoph myth implies an essentialist view of sexuality • they all have different views • male biased • heavenly – nothing female • earthly aphrod Ancient Sexuality and Gender
Agenda • Writer’s Corner … • Name That Mistake • Recap and Update • Sexual “Codes” & Sexualities in Aeschines and Plato Ancient Sexuality and Gender
Writer’s Corner … Name That Mistake
wordy ital dropped quote, MLA citation issues unsubstantiated claim Plagiarism! The Ancient Grecian play Medea caused a tremendous stir when it was first performed. The evil that I do, I understand full well,But a passion drives me greater than my will.
Recap and Update Sexual “Codes” & Sexualities in Aeschines and Plato
Misgolas “He is bent on that sort of thing [pederasty] like one possessed, and is accustomed always to have about him [male] singers or cithara-players” (41)
Timarchus “Timarchus was … just the person for the thing that Misgolas wanted to do, and Timarchus wanted to have done.” (41) “What shall we say when a young man … keeps the most expensive flutegirls and harlots? When he gambles and pays nothing himself but another man always pays for him?” (75)
Erotic Law Codes? (Pausanias’ Speech) • Nomos = • “Law” • “Convention” • “Law Codes” • Elsewhere • Elis, Boeotia • Ionia • “Here” Ancient Sexuality and Gender
Aristophanes’ Myth Essentialist or Constructionist?
Is Diotimianerōs Pederasty? And is it honorable?