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  1. Esther Doyle Guidance Counsellor Planning the next step of your career A presentation for parents and students

  2. Outline of presentation Some of the key issues this year including: • Decisions, Dates and Deadlines [Ireland and abroad] • CAO Applications/points system/offers • Cost of studying and living at home and away from home • Student Supports: • Grants, Access Schemes, Scholarships, Disability • Other routes: FETAC/QQI Progression Schemes • Other non CAO options

  3. First decision – college?At home or abroad? Will I stay ? Or go?

  4. If direct entry to college is not for you or you need a back up plan:FETAC Progression Routes –Further Education (PLC) FETAC level 5 or 6 • In 2014 there are 38 HEI’s offering places to FETAC applicants • Currently 20% of all CAO applicants have a level 5/6 FETAC AWARD (not applying on the basis of LC) • Since 2014 every FETAC Award will be part of the CAS (Common Awards System) • Based on a CREDITS system (max120=400points) • Some courses are ‘linked’ to specific related courses • For more information look up website

  5. The FETAC(QQI) Progression Route

  6. Choice 1: Going to college in Ireland:Making a CAOApplication • Since 2007 there are 3 types of courses students can apply for under the National Qualifications Framework. • These are applied for on 2 separate lists on a single form: Level 6 & 7 Courses Level 8 Courses Ordinary Degrees (7) Higher Certificates (6) Honours Degrees (8) Up to 10 Course ChoicesUp to 10 Course Choices • The courses and levels are clearly labelled in the CAO Handbook • N.B. – Care must be taken with courses marked ‘Restricted’. • These ‘restricted’ courses cannot be applied for after February 1st due to extra assessments required. • Check out the CAO website at

  7. So how does the CAO and points system in Ireland work?

  8. CAO Points System Generally in the CAO system No. of qualified applicants > No. of course places --> selection system is needed. Selection system used in Irish 3rd Level Colleges is CAO POINTS SYSTEM • Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only. • Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects • Entry Requirements (e.g. Pass in Maths and English) can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate- with some exceptions –e.g. Medicine

  9. Points System – the best 6 GradeHonoursOrdinary A1 100 60 A2 90 50 B1 85 45 B2 80 40 B3 75 35 BEST C1 7030 6 C2 65 25 C3 60 20 SUBJECTS D1 55 15 D2 50 10 D3 45 5 • Since 2012, bonus points in higher maths – • 25 extra points

  10. How the points are calculated • All the subjects a student presents are given a CAO points score and the best 6 numbers are added up to get the overall total points. • Irish H C2 65 • English O A1 65 • Maths H D2 50 +25=75 • French H B2 80 • Biology H C1 70 • Geography O A1 60 exclude • History H B3 75 • POINTS 425 • BEFORE THE POINTS WILL BE LOOKED AT A STUDENT MUST SATISFY THE : • 1: COLLEGE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS (MATRICULATION) • 2: COURSE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS (CAN BE SUBJECT OR GRADE SPECIFIC)

  11. CAO Timetable –crucial dates • 5th Nov – online CAO application facility opens • 1stFebruary, 2015[Early Bird Special Offer –Jan 20th2015] • Closing date for receipt of normal applications • Before/By 15th February, 2015 • Receive Statement of Course Choices • 1st March 2015 Closing date for final completion of online HEAR and DARE applications 1st April 2015 Closing date for all final HEAR/DARE documentation • 1st May, 2015 • Closing date for receipt oflate CAO applications • Before/By 31st May, 2015 • Receive Statement of Application Record • From 5 May, 2015 • Change of mind opens -FREE 1st July, 2015 • Latest date for receipt of change of mind form in CAO. • Late August, 2015 • First round of offers will commence on Aug 17 2014: round 1, Aug 26 2014: round 2 • Cost of CAO Application: • Early Bird – 25 Euro [on or before Jan 20th] • Normal – 40 Euro [by Feb 1st] • Students are encouraged to apply soon and avail of the FREE change of mind facility until the end of January [to avoid the last minute panic and computer problems]

  12. CAO Offers – how it works • In August 2015 (17 AUG) the CAO will make offers to students from both lists(level 6/7 and 8) • Students can only accept one offer at a time • Students are still eligible for ALL higher preference offers in later rounds • Students can accept online • If deferring, students must contact the HEI directly in writing • From May to July 1st students can adjust their course choice lists using the FREE change of mind facility.

  13. Choice 2: Going to College AbroadUK/USA or Europe • USA APPLICANTS • For students applying to the USA –the S.A.T. is usually part of the application process. • Register by Oct 9th 2014, test is on 8 Nov 2014 • Locations: 2 schools in Dublin St. Conleths and St. Andrews Dublin • Register now online, go to the website UK APPLICANTS • For UK applicants (Oct 15th or Jan 15th) • Students set up their accounts online and work through the sections • Up to 5 choices maximum [sometimes only 4] • Guidelines have been given regarding writing the personal statement • Ensure you are aware of the courses that must be applied for by Oct 15th Check out the admissions tests list on the UCAS website for UKCAT, HPAT etc

  14. Going to college in Europe • Many colleges offer EU students the opportunity to study at very reasonable prices through the medium of English across many excellent universities • Check out the Website for more information about dates and costs

  15. Making A College ApplicationImportant Key Dates for Ireland/UK • UCAS October 15th 2014(for some courses) • UCAS January 15th 2015(for most courses) • CAO Feb 1st 2015 • [Early bird special deal –Jan 20th] • PLC applications March 2015 • [some accept later applications] • REACH applications March 2015 • HEAR and DARE applications Feb/March 1st 2015 • Pre exams March 2015 • Practical/Oral LC exams March/April 2015 • HEAR and DAREfinaldocumentation April 1st2015 • LC written exams June 3rd 2015 • Grant applications SUSI June/July 2015 • Students have a list of all open days

  16. So you want to go to college?How will you finance it?

  17. Cost of Living at Home – 2014Registration Fees approx: €2,750

  18. The Cost of Living Away From Home Registration Fees approx: €2,750 • Students in receipt of a grant will get their registration fees paid and may also receive additional support

  19. Is there any financial support?Yes, there is! Let’s see what supportthere is out there for you

  20. What Supports are Available? 1. GRANTS/SUSI Financial 2. H.E.A.R. Scheme Access/financial 3. REACH Programme Access/financial 4. Millennium Partnership Fund for Disadvantage Financial 5. Other Scholarships DEIS/academic/ Financial 6. D.A.R.E. Scheme Access/disability

  21. 1. Grants • Applications are completed online at SUSI –Student Universal Support Ireland • Check out website for more information So how much do students get?

  22. 2. HEARHigher Education Access Route • This is an access scheme which the following 16 Institutions are involved in: • DCU, DIT, NUI Maynooth, NUI Galway, TCD, UL, UCC, UCD, Marino, Mary I, Mater Dei, St. Angela’s, St. Pats, COI College of Education, NCI, PUM • Targets students who are motivated and have the ability to attend 3rd level but may lack some of the social or economic supports. • Who is eligible to apply? • Long term unemployed • Low family income – must be within the Irish grants income limits • Little family tradition of progression to 3rd level • Under represented socio-economic groups • Applications are due in byFeb 1st 2015 – through the CAO scheme and must be fully complete by March 1st 2015 • ALL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS must be in by APRIL 1st 2015 • Student Supports: • Financial (1,200 approx)Personal Guidance Orientation Programme • Academic Social Supports Extra Tuition • Students must get about 90% of the points needed to do the course of choice. A lot of students who are on the HEAR scheme achieved their place with no concession on points.

  23. 3. REACH PROGRAMME ACCESS TO WIT only • This is an DIRECT APPLICATION access programme run by WIT. • Its objective is to increase participation rates at WIT by students who may lack economic or social supports. We can make 5 applications only. The application process has changed since last year. • Criteria: • 1. Be a child of parents in receipt of social welfare • 2. Be a single parent/minority group (or other groups under-represented at 3rd level) • 3. Other extenuating circumstances – low family income, must apply for grant • Student Supports: • Induction course Financial assistance • Additional tuition Book vouchers • Mentoring Travel/childcare subsidy • Closing date: April 2015 [date to be confirmed] • Students must get 200 points (minimum) and fulfil the entry requirements for the course of choice

  24. 4. Millennium Partnership Fund for Disadvantage • This is a locally administered fund to assist students from disadvantaged areas attend further education. • Application forms are available from Waterford Area Partnership. • A local committee selects the students who receive support.

  25. 5. Other Scholarships • SIPTU – for children of SIPTU members, €1000 • Credit Union – John Hume, Business –WIT • Foley Scholarship – Architecture – €8000 • Sports Scholarships – check with college • Entrance scholarships – awarded to best students • Irish Taxation Institute Scholarship – taxation • Science Foundation Ireland/DELL Scholarship –young women in engineering – engineering degrees – €2000 • NUI Equal Opportunities Scheme - €1625 • All Ireland Scholarship Scheme – 120 top LC students, open to medical card holders • Details of all schemes on

  26. 6. D.A.R.E – Disability Access Route to Education • This is part of the supplementary CAO application process. • Forms are completed online with additional information forwarded to the CAO. • The scheme is intended to support students with diagnosed disabilities such as: • Asberger’s Syndrome, Autism, ADD, ADHD, blind, vision impaired, Dyspraxia, mental health condition, neurological conditions, significant ongoing illness, physical disability, specific learning difficulty and others…. • The following 12 colleges are part of this scheme: • Athlone IT, DCU, DIT, MATER DEI, NCI, NUIG, NUIM, TCD, UCC, UCD, UL, PUM • Applications due in: FEB 1st to be fully completed by March 1st 2015 • Additional information due in by: APRIL 1st 2015 • For further information check out:

  27. Financial Documentation needed • Parents are encouraged to collect in a file all the financial documentation that will be needed. • The following are often requested: • P60 for year ended 2013/4 • P21 for year ended 2013/4 • Self-employed: copy of accounts ending 2012 and 2013 • Social Welfare recipient: statement from local office showing total amounts received for the year ending 2013/4 • An original birth cert may also be requested • Grant applications require information from 2014 while HEAR applications require 2013. • If you are doing a HEAR and grant application you will need both sets of documents.

  28. Supports In Summary • Students are encouraged to look at all these schemes and put the time and effort into applying if they feel they are eligible. • HEAR /DARE forms are completed as part of the online CAO process (students NOT the school send them off) • REACH forms [WIT] will be completed between Jan and March • Completed REACHFormsto be returned to your Guidance Counsellor (sent by the school to WIT) • Scholarship applications are usually returned to the college/Institute • Grant forms are completed in the summer online and supporting documents are returned to the SUSI office [note: they are not returned to school]

  29. Websites Websites: • • • • • • • • • • Thank you for your attention • If you have any questions please feel free to ring me at school

  30. And Finally……….A Scare at bedtime!!!In case you are interested it is 37 weeks to the day till your Leaving Certificate begins on Wednesday June 3rd 2015!!!Don’t forget to collect:Hand-outs Best of luck in the year ahead and happy studying!!!