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Network Measurements Working Group

Network Measurements Working Group. Chairs: Richard Hughes-Jones Brian Tierney Eric Boyd ISP Area Meeting GGF10 Berlin. Charter & History. Network Measurements Working Group (NMWG) is part of the Performance and Information Systems area. Formed 2001 after a BOF at GGF 2

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Network Measurements Working Group

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  1. Network Measurements Working Group Chairs: Richard Hughes-Jones Brian Tierney Eric Boyd ISP Area Meeting GGF10 Berlin NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  2. Charter & History • Network Measurements Working Group (NMWG) is part of the Performance and Information Systems area. • Formed 2001 after a BOF at GGF 2 • 1st NMWG Frascati GGF3 • Mailing list is nm-wg@gridforum.org • Web-pages:http://www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWGhttp://forge.gridforum.org/projects/nm-wg/ • Charter revised (slightly!) in 2003: NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  3. Current work Mar 2004 • Hierarchy document • Discussions with & input from DAMED & CIM GGF Groups • Network Measurement Tools Classification / Properties Note • http://www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWG/NM-WG-tools.html • Links between NM-WG: • Internet 2 Tools List: http://e2epi.internet2.edu/tools_list.html • CAIDA Tool Taxonomy: http://www.caida.org/tools/taxonomy/performance.xml • Work in progress to define the Request schema • Work in progress to define the Response schema • Links with DAMED • Discussions with CIM – Julia/Andrea made CIM scheme showing how NM-WG could fit • Trial Implementations and Proof of Concept trials • piPEs experience with new schema • SLAC experience with new schema • Link to GHPN-RG work on Network Services NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  4. Status of the Hierarchy Document • “A Hierarchy of Network Performance Characteristics for Grid Applications and Services” • Document defines terms & relations: • Network characteristics • Measurement methodologies • Observation • Discusses Nodes & Paths • For each Characteristic • Defines the meaning • Attributes that SHOULD be included • Issues to consider when making an observation • Status: • Originally submitted to GFSG as Community Practice Documentdraft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-00.pdf Jul 2003 • Revised to Proposed Recommendation http://www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWG/docs/draft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-02.pdf 7 Jan 04 • Now in 60 day Public comment from 28 Jan 04 – 18 days to go. NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  5. Status of the Schemata Network Monitoring Service XML test request XML tests results • Request Schema: • Ask for results / ask to make test • Schema Requirements Document made • Use DAMED style namese.g. path.delay.oneWay • Send: Char. Time, Subject = node | pathMethodology, Stats • Response Schema: • Interpret results • Includes Observation environment • Much work in progress • Common components • Drafts almost done • 2 (3) proof-of-concept implementations • Implementations using XML-RPC, (Document /Literal ) NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  6. NM-WG Milestones – as of GGF9 • Jun 2003 Detailed discussion of Schemas document • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle • Jul 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries • Oct 2003 Draft XML • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data model) • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Input and Output • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ?? • Xxx 2004 Initial implementations and Proof of Concept Demos • Feb 2004 GGF 10 Berlin • Jan 2003 Refine XML Schema Input and Output • Xxx 2004 Implementations and Proof of Concept Demos • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  7. NM-WG Milestones • July 2002 GGF 5 Edinburgh • Jul 2002Begin work on tools classification • Oct 2002 GGF 6 Chicago • Oct 2002Near-final draft of characteristics hierarchy document to GFSG • Mar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo • Mar 2003Finish work on tools classification web page • Mar 2003Begin work on schema document • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle • Apr 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG • Jul 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document • Nov 2003Draft of Schema document • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG Blue = GGF Milestones NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  8. NM-WG Milestones – GGF10 ** • Oct 2003Draft of Schema document • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries • Oct 2003 Draft XML • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data model) • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Request & Report/Response • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ?? • Jan 2004 Initial implementationsand Proof of Concept Demos • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin • Mar 2004 Refine XML Schema Input and Output • Xxx 2004 Implementations and Proof of Concept Demos • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii • Jun 2004 NM_RG BoF • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG Blue = GGF Milestones NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

  9. Issues / Needs • Schemata Implementations and Proof of Concept trials very important. • Concern on WS-RF – we don’t want to re-invent • Proposed new Network Measurements Research Group BoF in Hawaii • Link to GHPN-RG work on Network Services • We feel this is positive. NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

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