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Oeztal Alps 2013

Oeztal Alps 2013. Information Evening. Welcome. Welcome & Introduction Ash Andy Other key people … . Ash Green. IT Engineer for LCC. District Explorer Scout Leader (Ormskirk) & ADC Activities Mountaineering experience in UK, Europe & Greenland Ardennes trips, walker, climber

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Oeztal Alps 2013

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  1. Oeztal Alps 2013 Information Evening

  2. Welcome • Welcome & Introduction • Ash • Andy • Other key people …

  3. Ash Green • IT Engineer for LCC. • District Explorer Scout Leader (Ormskirk) & ADC Activities • Mountaineering experience in UK, Europe & Greenland • Ardennes trips, walker, climber • Guitarist. • Sprouts.

  4. Andy Mathers • Teacher of Science at Montgomery High School, Blackpool • Explorer Scout Leader (Blackpool) • Mountaineering experience in UK, Europe, North America & Canada • Ardennes Adventure, Nepal • Mountain (death) Biker

  5. Tonight • Overview of trip & intentions • Activities • Logistics • Equipment • Costs • Q&A

  6. Overview of the trip • Mountaineering group • Experience, safety record • Developing participants • The Oetztal area • Weather .......

  7. Mountaineering Group • Over 10 years • Snow and Ice • Multiple Alpine Trips bi-annually including: • 1999 Dauphine Alps (France) • 2001 Oeztal Alps (Austria) • 2003/2006 Jottenheimien in Norway • 2005 Swiss Alps (Arolla) • Greenland 2004 & 2007

  8. Stuff run by your leaders • Skye Trips ~ 8 years • Ardennes Adventure • Dolomites 2009 Mountaineering Trip • (in the future…) Greenland 2015

  9. Experience, Kit, Safety • Mountain leaders have ML (summer) or equivalent permit • All activity leaders will have permits to cover activities. • Over 18s arrangements. • Excellent safety record on mountaineering trips.

  10. Developing Explorer Scouts & Scout Network Members • Skills in the outdoors • Dealing with Altitude • Alpine Mountaineering • Hut systems • Independence (Big Boys & Girls) • Teamwork & Over 18s arrangements • Personal responsibility for transport, food, accommodation etc. • You pick what YOU want to do. Own choice!

  11. The Oetztal Alps • Geography • Where is it? • What is it? • Alpine Austrian Mountains • Granite • Formations • Colours • Big Skiing area (in Winter!)

  12. Big Map

  13. Weather • Alpine (regular thunderstorms) • Dry / Wet • Alternative activities. Activities not necessarily possible every day.

  14. Dates • 26th July – 11th August • Flexible dates – possible to do part of trip. Most vehicles will follow those dates • All participants to be present for opening of event at our campsite 5pm Sunday. • Gives chance for all options of travel to arrive

  15. Activities • Alpinism • Via Ferrata • Mountain Biking • Single & Multi-pitch climbing • Walking

  16. Walking & Alpinism - Paul • Way Marked Paths • Scenic • Opportunity for self led, remotely supervised groups • Hut System

  17. Wildespitze

  18. Similaun

  19. HintereSchwarze

  20. The Gurgelferner as seen from the north from the Spiegelkogel, with in the distance (left of center) the Hochwilde.

  21. Alpine Huts – multi day trips? The Gurgelferner as seen from the north from the Spiegelkogel, with in the distance (left of center) the Hochwilde.

  22. Via Ferrata - Ash • Climbing by numbers • Equipment • Safety / routes

  23. Learnin….

  24. Get into impressive areas …

  25. Weird stuff

  26. How to do it …

  27. MTB Austrian Over 860km of way marked bike paths. Use of summer mountain ‘railways’. Longest descent in Austria, starting at Gaislachkoglbahn mountain station 3,000m+

  28. Terrain • Steep! • Mix of fire road, singletrack, road  • Lifts (the European way) • VF not a good idea!

  29. Climbing • Single Pitch • Multi Pitch • Multiple crags in the area • Indoor if weather breaks

  30. From Beginners ….

  31. To adventurers!

  32. …more • Sport climbing – Tyrol a reasonable area • Will use other single pitch crags nearby • Accessible by public transport • Coaching

  33. Activity Costs • MTB – bike hire ~ £20/day • Climbing – free • VF – free • Walking – free (lift and hut charge)

  34. Training • Leader Training • Participant Training • Weekend away

  35. Leader Training • Via Ferrata session in Lake District. • Arranging for Multi-pitch bolted permit assessments. • Using Andy Brown (MIC) for training & assessments.

  36. Participant training • Overall Fitness crucial to the trip. • Time to get fit from now. • Geoff's fitness plan – see http://mountain.westlancashirescouts.org.uk/Documents.htm for the link. Aim high! • Unfit = unable to achieve goals on trip = stuck at campsite = wasted money! • Walk, bike, and climb! • Spring Meet, MAC, Alcatraz, Dragnet etc.

  37. Weekend away • Welsh meet • 3rd– 6th May 2013 • Ogwen Valley, Snowdonia • Activities (walking, climbing, scrambling, biking, expeditioning) • Meet the team (Bonding joys) • Share transport/tentage.

  38. YOUR Equipment • 'normal' UK walking kit • Shorts - sun block. Prepare for hot, and wet weathers! • Climbing harness • Helmet • 120cm (4’) tape with 2 x HMS Karabiners. • Strong walking boots. • Recommended Equipment list to be circulated. • Borrowing = cheaper than buying!

  39. Stuff not to get • Ropes • Via Ferrata kits • Other kit owned by WLMG

  40. Over 18’s rules • In a nutshell: • There to facilitate activities for those aged over 18 but not permitted • Its an enabling structure, not a prevention. • Every time someone does an activity under the over 18s rules, there will be a form to fill in (not onerous!) • There is ….some detail ….

  41. Adult Groups in Adventurous Activities (a.k.a. “The over-18 rule”) • See: Fact Sheet FS120087 Jun/10 Edition no 3 • POR Rule 9.8 Adult Groups in Adventurous Activities • Allows groups wholly aged 18 or over to participate in adventurous activities (without the need to be accompanied by an appropriate Permit holder). • Allowing personal development, enjoyment and the ability to develop skills. • Framework to allow each adult to give ‘informed consent’ based on the knowledge of the potential hazards and risks. • Every participant, as an adult, has the responsibility to question what measures have been taken for safety and well being. • For any Scouting activity: • InTouch (POR Rule 9.3) • Risk Assessment (POR Rule 9.4) • Emergency Procedure (POR Rule 9.5) • Banned activities are still banned! • In addition: • Each activity must have a co-ordinator • Each participant must sign an Acknowledgement of Risk Statement and have read FS120087 • Liaison with an Activity Advisor / seek Technical Advice

  42. Logistics - Andy • Number of options • Fly/train/car/bus • Go independent or choose to travel centrally • By road = overnight stop in Belgium

  43. Travel in Austria • Local transport excellent • Public transport where possible • Other will be by using cars • And … although Red Bull is alleged to give you wings, it ain’t playing out on this trip!

  44. Camping - Marita • Camping near Solden, next village down the valley • Charged per person and per ‘place’ • If up the mountain then don’t pay the ‘person’ • Place = measured space (tents/cars) • Far cheaper to share a tent

  45. Located at the edge of the forest exciting holidays are guaranteed. • It’s the perfect base for hiking, climbing and mountaineering tours. • “Alpengasthof am Feuerstein” with toboggan run directly accessible from the campsite.

  46. The Campsite • Wireless LAN available and • Internet station • Washing machine on site • (cost around 3Euros per • wash), Drying room • available • Bread baking facilities on site • Child friendly campsite and facilities

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