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Summary of IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Meeting - November 2017

This report covers the key outcomes of the IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG meeting held in Orlando, FL, in November 2017. Chaired by Tim Godfrey from EPRI, the meeting focused on Smart Grid and IoT Task Groups, discussing action items, updates on wireless matrix developments, and collaboration with other organizations. Plans for white papers addressing LPWAN standardization and IoT integration were also highlighted, along with ongoing liaisons with the Wi-Fi Alliance. The document provides insights into the future direction of 802.24's efforts in various vertical applications.

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Summary of IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Meeting - November 2017

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  1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG November 2017 Closing Report Orlando, FL, USA Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  2. 802.24 Overview • Officers • TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey • Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe • Task Groups • 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey • 802.24.2 IoT TG Chris DiMinico • 34 Voting Members • Agenda: 24-17-0024-01-0000 • Meetings for the Week • Monday PM2 24.1 • Tuesday PM2 24.2 • Wednesday PM2 24.1 4:00 with 802.19, 5:00 802.1 TSN • Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members

  3. Agenda – 802.24-17-0024r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  4. Monday: 802.24 TAG • Approved September minutes • 24-17-0027r0 • Unanimous Consent • TAG Action Items from July / September: • Plan TSN teleconference (October) • Did not happen – pick up at this meeting • Coordinate with Wael on Wi-Fi Alliance Liaison • Review IoT MSTG Use Case Document (Henry Chiarelli) • Set up Private Area for exchanging documents under Liaison (done) Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  5. Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  6. Finalize PAP2 Wireless Matrix • Current Status: • Latest version 802.24-17-0004r6 • Pinged 802.11 last week for spectrum efficiency values • Osama will review with 802.11ax group • SEPA/SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update • 802.24 output will provide update for 802 standards • Other standards’ contributors may provide additional updates Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  7. SEPA/SGIP update WG • Membership (established by SEPA) • Tim Godfrey EPRI • Ron Cunningham AEP • Doug Gray TCS • Bill Godwin Duke Energy • Matt Gilmore Itron • Gerald Gray EPRI • Planning first call next week, Nov 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  8. Sub 1 GHz Publishing • IEEE staff (Catherine Berger) has edited our final draft and provided proposed revisions • 24-16-0036-00-0000-sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1 • Posted as 24-17-0029r0 • TAG action: Review and approve • Edited version in 24-16-0036-01-0000-sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1 • Final version after review to be sent back via Jonathan Goldberg Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  9. 802.11 AANI SC • Discussion in 802.11 AANI SC • Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee • Response to IEEE 5G white paper • https://5g.ieee.org/images/files/pdf/ieee-5g-roadmap-white-paper.pdf • AANI wants to generate a response • Key question: • Is 802.11 (and more broadly IEEE 802) going to be more than a “component” of future networks that are controlled by 3GPP? • Would 802.24 participants like to contribute (assuming 802.11 also contributes) if an all-802 response and white paper content is requested? • No objection Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  10. Future plans (Nov 2017 Updates) • Monitor the LPWAN IG in 802.15 to see where it goes (and links to IETF) • Starting SG – amendment to 802.15.4, utilizing pieces for LPWAN • Develop an 802-based alternative to proprietary LPWAN’s • Applying new bands and channel plans • 802.15.4u and 802.15.4v completed. Add bands in various regions for existing 802.15.4 PHYs commonly used in smart grid. • IG on OFDM – • Will result in a new amendment for 802.15.4: Filling the blanks in the OFDM PHY. PAR in March, TG meeting in March/May. • Action: Late 2018: Plan update of first smart grid white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  11. Tuesday 802.24.2IoT TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  12. Tuesday: 802.24.2 • 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report • Wael Diab (not present) • IIC Liaison Report • Any new liaison requests • Request to explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group. • 802.24 will initiate the liaison request • Action Wael – draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange. • Suggested: IoT Market Segment Task Group • Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  13. 802.24 Private Area • Drafts and other documents provided under liaison agreements are available here for use by 802.24 members: • http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/24/private/ The P2413 draft is currently available • For access credentials, please contact the 802.24 Chair or Vice-chair Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  14. 802.24.2 • P2413 Liaison Report and Draft Review • Ludwig Winkel • Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper • Can be use to explain to the 802 community how 802 fits into the overall IoT architecture Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  15. 802.24.2 • Review and plan IoT white paper development • Chris DiMinico • Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft • Contributions towards IoT White Paper • Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Use Case Document Review • Pending establishment of liaison • Chris intends to submit proposal for a 802.24.2 IoT Tutorial in March 2018 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  16. Wednesday 802.24 / 802.19Joint Session Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  17. Coexistence 802.15.4g and 802.11ah • Review and discuss document 19-17-0087r2 • Simulation scenario shows impact of 802.11ah on 802.15.4g operation. Suggestion that a coexistence mechanism may be needed • Follow up meetings in 802.19 will investigate. Results may lead to updating of 802.24’s Sub-1GHz white paper. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  18. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG802.1 TSN Joint Working Session Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  19. Update on TSN white paper • Notes from July: • Leads for developing text contributions: • Janos Farkas – section on “Describe how TSN works” • Maik Seewald – section on “Understand IEC 61850 activities and relationships” • Karl Weber – section on DER and stabilizing networks with reactive power control. • Rodney Cummings – “how TSN features make use of time sync protocols” • Updated version after initial merge of Norm Finn contribution • 802.24-17-0006r10 • Norm’s text in purple • “How it works”, “Appendix 1 – Standards Summary” • Maik’s text contribution re-inserted • Challenge is reducing excellent content to more manageable size for this white paper. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  20. Next Steps • Continue merging and condensing content from Norm Finn • Merge content related to time synchronization • Other text contributions from 802.1 TSN? • Document contribution from Rodney Cummings possible • Review IETF DetNet use cases – incorporate others as appropriate • Teleconference in January • January Interim not all-802. • Another updating cycle before March plenary? • 802.1 interim is Jan 22-26. • Plan on call week of Jan 29 (follow up and announce on reflect) • Avoid Tuesday and Thursday mid-day EST Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  21. 802.24 TAG closing • Action Items from this meeting • Plan TSN teleconference • Forward reviewed Sub-1GHz white paper for publishing Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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