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Feedback on Learning Day. How can we facilitate insights gained today with Circuits as well as in Districts?. Different Approaches?. NSM presbyter, in ecumenical situation. 4 Churches from different traditions, Meth. URC, CofE, Evangelical When working together traditions seems 2ndry.
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Feedback on Learning Day • How can we facilitate insights gained today with Circuits as well as in Districts?
Different Approaches? • NSM presbyter, in ecumenical situation. 4 Churches from different traditions, Meth. URC, CofE, Evangelical • When working together traditions seems 2ndry. • It works because ‘Jesus is put 1st’ • Lots of ‘Godincedences’ bring opportunities. Support brings creativity.
Different Worship • Not totally radical – still on a Sunday, but café style. Informal. Sits alongside trad. Svc. • Has shown that one size fits all isn’t appropriate. • New approach makes new demands • Challenge of finding time for new approaches, must be priority?
Strength for Vision • Encouraging others happens slowly • Unwilling to join neighbours • Seems to happen at a very slow pace • Can a whole cycle of change by skipped? • Eg transfer trusteeship from Church to Circuit • The big challenge lies here?
Consultation with Community • Brings insight which challenges • Survey brought lack of response • Asks Q, ‘What is the response?’
Consultation within? • A prority to avoid ‘fallout’ • Might take longer but important not to lose people along th way.
Leadership from the Front? • Restructuring needed for Circuit that belongs to a previous generation - systems are no longer appropriate • Bold programme suggested: • Eliminating many Church Councils (22 < 3) • Church Grouping proposed • Increase administration input to includ policy development • Skilled worker employed to develop/address buildings issues for any Church in Circuit • Leading to both Chapel closures whilst the Church is growing and planting
District Property Sec. Speaks… • Risk in schemes is always to be mitigated against • It is discouraged in our systems • Can District address this and lobby Connexion?
New Ideas? • Can we encourage our churches to face new ways through our leadership? • Risk is part of our discipleship and should be revealed in our spirituality
Peak Circuit • In rural context small Community closures ‘unimaginable’ • How do Ecumenical links help? • Problems with ecumencial boundaries • Nb. That C.of E. is often now working with small number of churches
Joined up Working • Approach in York & Hull that attempted to link ecumenical work and plan together
Learning From Others • Churches from ethinc groups have much to teach regarding essentials such as prayer
Value of Teamworking • Pros and Cons with Teamworking • Sense of identification with a minister can be lost, causes pastoral problems? • Preacher is a facilitor in this situation • Prayer a priority, this is our business