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  1. History, Development, Mechanics, and Practical Considerations Ian McCollum www.ForgottenWeapons.com Magazines and Clips

  2. What is the Difference? Magazine: Has a feed spring Clip: Does not

  3. Magazine A magazine both holds cartridges and provides the force to feed them up so they may be chambered. If it has a spring pushing cartridges up, it is a magazine.

  4. En-bloc clip (aka Mannlicher clip) Inserted wholly into firearm Two Types of Clip Stripper clip (aka charger clip) Used to load a magazine

  5. En bloc clips invented by Ferdinand Mannlicher in 1885 Stripper clips invented by Mauser in 1889 Clip Development

  6. Ferdinand Mannlicher • Blow-forward pistol • Short recoil pistol • Straight-pull rifle • Turnbolt rifle • En-bloc clip • Arguably Europe's greatest gun designer

  7. Mannlicher 1886 clip

  8. Mannlicher 1886 clip

  9. Mannlicher System • Steyr-Mannlicher 1886/1888/1890 • Steyr-Mannlicher 1895 • Italian Mannlicher-Carcano M1891/1938 • Dutch M1895 Mannlicher • Pedersen Self-Loader • M1 Garand • Commission-Gewehr 1888 • French Berthier 1890/1907/1916 • Hungarian 35M • 1895 Lee Navy (sort of)

  10. CON Gun single-shot without clip Some not reversible Difficult to “top off” Mannlicher System PRO • Cheap • Light and compact • Quick to load • Very little to go wrong

  11. Mannlicher clip functions • Holds cartridges • Provides feed lips • Automatically discarded when empty

  12. Common Mannlicher or en-bloc clips

  13. Steyr M95 straight-pull

  14. Italian Carcano

  15. German Gewehr 88

  16. M1 Garand

  17. Pedersen Selfloader

  18. 1895 Lee Navy • Hybrid clip, sort of • Fed whole and loaded into action • Wire spring disengages as soon as loaded; clip falls out • Not necessary for rifle use, just speeds reloading

  19. Mauser stripper clips Developed in conjunction with the Belgian M1889 Mauser rifle. Mauser-style clips are a reloading aid, not a necessity.

  20. Mauser M1889

  21. CON Slower to load Mauser Clip System PRO • Cheap • Light & compact • Disposable • Rifle can be used without clip • No feed lips or catches to be damaged

  22. Common Stripper Clips 5 Round for rifles

  23. Common Stripper Clips 10-15 Round for rifles

  24. Common Stripper Clips 6, 8, and 10 Round for early automatic pistols

  25. Tension in Stripper Clips Tabs at the ends of the clip

  26. Tension in Stripper Clips Flat spring along inside of clip

  27. Tension in Stripper Clips Bent tabs on the bottom of the clip

  28. Tension in Stripper Clips Tabs acting on cartridge case bodies

  29. How about some strange clips?

  30. Remington Model 8

  31. Experimental German Clip

  32. Experimental German Clip

  33. Horseshoe clips

  34. Japanese Type 11

  35. Type 11 & Breda 30

  36. Experimental Bren Clip

  37. Avoiding a scope

  38. Roth-Steyr Clip

  39. Swiss Solution

  40. Canadian Experiments

  41. Questions about clips?

  42. Detachable Magazines • First invented and patented by James Paris Lee in 1879 • Before either type of clip • Design has not changed much since 1879

  43. Box Magazine Basic principles • Holds multiple cartridges • Provides motive force to push cartridges into the bolt's path to feed • Usually includes feed lips to control cartridge • Self-contained and generally removable from firearm

  44. Remington-Lee Rifle

  45. 1879 Remington-Lee Magazine

  46. Loading and Shooting

  47. Box Magazine Component Parts • Body • Follower • Spring • Floorplate