Seneca Moral Letters LXXXIII24-27

1. SenecaMoral Letters LXXXIII24-27 After Chapter 34, The Commissatio

2. I. 1 Quae gloriaestcaperemultum? Cum palmamhabueris et 2 Propinationestuasconvivaesomnooppressivomitantesque 3 recusaverint, cum superstestoticonviviofueris, cum omnesvirtute 4 Magnificaviceris et nemovini tam capaxfuerit, vinceris a dolio. To hold palm To vomit continually A drinking toast To refuse survivor manliness Large wine jug Able to hold much

3. Comprehension Questions I • 1. To what activity does the opening questions refer? (1) • 2. What will the victor have? (1) • 3. Why do the guests no longer respond to the toasts proposed by the victor in the drinking bout? (2-3) • 4. To whom does the word superstes refer? (3) • 5. How does the victor (superstes) compare with the others at the banquet? (3-4) • 6. By what will the victor himself be overcome or surpassed? (4)

4. II. To destroy 5 M. Antonium, magnum nobilemquevirum, quae alia res perdidit 6 et in externos mores ecvitia non Romanaadduxit quam ebrietas et 7 Cleopatraeamor, qui non minor quam amorvinierat? Haecillum 8 res hostemreipublicaefecit; haechostibussuisimparemreddidit; 9 haeccrudelemfecit. Nam capita principemcivitatiseicenantiallata 10 sunt et inter conviviamagnifica et regalia proscriptorumora ac 11 Manus agnovit et vino gravis sitiebattamensanguinem. Marcus noble What other thing…than… character vice drunkenness foreign love enemy state Ill-matched To return, to make Leading citizen cruel state dining Proscribed men head royal drunk Eagerly desire

5. Comprehension Questions II • 7. How is Mark Antony initially described? (5) • 8. What two things ruined him? (6-7) • 9. Into what two things was he led? (6) • 10. What three effects did all of this have on Mark Antony? (7-9) • 11. What was brought to him while dining? (9-10) • 12. In what circumstances did he identify the heads and hands of the proscribed? (10-11) • 13. What did Mark Antony thirst for while drunk with wine? (11)

6. III. 12 Intolerabileerat quod ebriusfiebatdumhaecfaciebat; intolerabi- 13 liuserat quod haec in ipsaebrietatefaciebat! Saepevinolentiam 14 crudelitas sequitur; animus enimcorrumpitur et ferox fit. Utmorbi 15 diuturnihominesiratosdifficilesquefaciunt, itaebrietatescontinuae 16 efferantanimos. Nam ubi homo saepeapud se non est, insania 17 durat et vitiavinocreataetiam sine illovalent. intolerable the fact that drunkenness Wine drinking cruelty follows To harm, ruin illness fierce Of a long duration, chronic difficult continuous To make wild insanity In his right mind To create To be strong To continue, last vice

7. Comprehension Questions III • 14. What was Mark Antony doing while identifying the heads and hands of the proscribed? (12) • 15. What was more intolerable than that? (12-13) • 16. What often follows wine drinking? (13-14) • 17. What two things happen to the mind of the wine drinker? (14) • 18. To what is continuous drunkenness compared? (14-15) • 19. What two things happen when a person is drunk often? (16-17)

8. IV. 18 Dicigitur cur virprudens non debeatebriusfieri. Deformitatem 19 reidemonstra rebus, non verbis. Quod facillimumest, probaistas, 20quae voluptatesvocantur, ubitranscenderuntmodum, poenasesse. ugliness word Which thing is… To show those pleasure To go beyond limit penalty

9. Comprehension Questions IV • 20. What should sensible men not do? (18) • 21. What word does Seneca use to describe the state of drunkenness? (18-19) • 22. When do pleasures become punishments? (19-20)