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IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda

IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda. Date: 21 February 19. Authors:. Call to Order / Administrative Items. Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802.18: Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) Vice-chair, looking for someone Secretary, looking for someone

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IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda

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  1. IEEE 802.18 RR-TAGTeleconference Agenda • Date: 21 February 19 Authors: Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  2. Call to Order / Administrative Items • Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802.18: • Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) • Vice-chair, looking for someone • Secretary, looking for someone • Voters: 41 (9 on EC); Nearly Voters: 3; Aspirant members: 14 • A quorum is met since this meeting was announced more then 45 days ago. • IEEE 802 Required notices: • Affiliation FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • > Be sure to announce you name, affiliation, employer and clients the first time you speak. • Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • Ethics - https://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html • IEEE 802 WG Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml • The 4 administration slides, reminder from your WG opening plenary  new 02jan18 • (note: call for essential patents is n/a, as the RR-TAG does not do standards) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  3. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs of different technical approaches that include relative costs of patent licensing terms may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain the primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- For more details, see IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Antitrust and Competition Policy: What You Need to Know at http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/antitrust.pdf

  4. Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings • Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis • Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) • IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4.2.1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) • Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. • Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 “Chair”, list item x. • By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (and please leave the call or meeting.) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  5. Agenda for teleconference • Discussion items, few more details: • EU Items • General items, ETSI, CEPT, etc. • FCC NPRM 18-295 , 6 GHz • Reply comments due 18 March • ECC Report 302, 6 GHz • Comments due 01 April • General discussion items: • US DoT comment status • ACMA comment status • Tutorial on Bi-Directional spectrum sharing • Call to Order • Attendance server is open • Administrative items • Need a recording secretary, Peter E. • Approve agenda & last minutes • looking for an 802.18 Vice-Chair. • Discussion items • EU Items • FCC NPRM 18-295 • ECC Report 302 • General Discussion Items • Actions required • And anything new from today • AOB and Adjourn Jay Holcomb (Itron) Agenda

  6. Administrative – Motions and more • RR-TAG is in need of a vice-chair and secretary, is there anyone that can help? ________ • Motion: To approve the agenda as presented on previous slide • Moved by: Stuart • Seconded by: Hassan • Discussion? None • Vote: Unanimous consent • Motion: To approve the minutes from the IEEE 802.18 teleconference 14 February 2019 in document: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0021-00-0000-minutes-14feb19-rrtag-teleconference.docx Posted: 15-Feb-2019 09:16:06 ET • Moved by: Mike • Seconded by: Peter • Discussion? None • Vote: Unanimous consent Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  7. EU items to share -1 • General EU news?<ojeu><HStds> • Nothing reported this week. • ETSI – <BRAN>next meeting #101, 25-28 Feb, Sophia Antipolis • Rush of filings, 7 to 8 of them on 5GHz adaptivity, for meeting next week. • TN 103631 – 6725-7125MHz, is in process and available to be approved next week. • ETSI - ERM - <TG-11>next meeting #55, 08-11 Apr, Sophia Antipolis • Nothing reported this week. • ETSI – ERM - <TG-UWB>next meeting #48, 05-07 Mar, Sophia Antipolis • Nothing reported this week. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  8. EU items to share -2 • CEPT – ECC <SE45>next meeting #7, 24-25 Apr, Copenhagen  • Coming soon is a contribution to improve the Exec. Summary of ECC Report 302. (Like the FM57 web meeting contribution recently.) • A key is the Exec Summary is not representing all the Exec. Summaries of the different sections by particular uses. • Public consultation is in process, its due date confirmed on 01 April. • CEPT – ECC <FM57>next meeting #5, 12-13 March, Maisons-Alfort • The meeting coming up is same time as IEEE Plenary. • Satellite and RLAN was the main topic however most technical folks will be at IEEE meeting, so how this will work out we will see. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  9. FCC NPRM 18-295, 6 GHz • Comments in: • https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=18-295&sort=date_disseminated,DESC • Reply comments due 18 March, Monday after our Plenary. • There are 112 entities, into 88 unique filings, 1500+… pages • Microwave – FWCC filing is the one of note. • Look at the Comsearch filing, the FCC data base is not sufficient, use us. • Coals data base the FCC stopped using in 2014 • End result - use our data base and we will “control” you. • Public safety & Utilities – many pointed to earlier FWCC filings and making same points. Both have microwave uses and cannot deal with interference….. • Broadcast – NAB is the prime. A house divided. They run a minimal link margin. • Auto makers – Very concerned with the 5925MHz and below. • RLAN – a few filings here also, easily found. • Other incumbents also. • For IEEE 802.18 at this time we will monitor the process and will not be doing comments. (Considering what was learned in the past year on considering IEEE 802 as a whole, there are other parties covering the different IEEE 802 interests) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  10. ECC Report 302, 6GHz • ECC report 302: • https://www.cept.org/Documents/wg-se/49152/se-19-044a18_draft-ecc-302-report-rlan-6ghz_final-pc • 28/01/19 SE(19)044 Minutes of the 81st WGSE meeting • Public Consultation deadlines, (not clear what for…) • Start of 2 weeks for administration comments Tuesday, 29 Jan • Start of public consultation Tuesday 12 Feb • End of public consultation Monday 1 April • SE45, 24-25 April will work to resolve the matters from comments received, then SE57 on 26th, will revise their report A with agreed upon resolutions of the comments. • Then a follow-on meeting in May of FM57, to get their report A approved. • FM 57 - Report A no technical #s, then Report B is done with the #s, so BRAN can do a standard. • Remember, SE is the technical analysis needed for the rules, then FM writes the rules. • For IEEE 802.18 at this time we will monitor the process and will not be doing comments. (Considering what was learned in the past year on considering IEEE 802 as a whole, there are other parties covering the different IEEE 802 interests) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  11. General Discussion ItemsU.S. DoT Releases RFC on V2X Communications • https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/us-department-transportation-releases-request-comment-rfc-vehicle-everything-v2x • The RFC can be found at www.transportation.gov/v2x • Or in Mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0166-00-0000-usdot-v2x-communciations-request-for-comments.docx • Comments: • https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2018-0210-0001 • Our final comments: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0008-08-0000-usdot-v2x-communciations-rfc-ieee-802-comments.pdf • Status of our comments: • Moderate update requested from EC on use of OCB. • Thanks to authors last Friday, 15th, was able to adjust the request so approval by all. • EC Ballot snuck by, 10-0-0-5, 66.67% response, 100% approval. • If not uploaded by this teleconference it will be by 22 Feb. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  12. General Discussion ItemsACMA - Proposed updates to class licensing arrangements supporting 5G and other technology innovations • [1] The proposed variation considers updating and expending 60 GHz arrangements (57-66 GHz) for data communication systems, including 5G. Specifically: • adding 66-71 GHz frequency band • updating existing arrangement in 57-66 GHz regarding indoor and outdoor data communication systems. • For more details see IFC 45/2018 Class licensing updates: Supporting 5G and other technology innovations  (18 December 2018, closes 22 February 2019). • The three documents are on Mentor: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0163 • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0164 • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0165 • Our final comments: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0014-07-0000-comments-to-acma-on-proposed-updates-to-class-licensing-arrangements.pdf • Status of our comments • EC Ballot passed in early close, 11-0-0-4, 73% response, 100% approval • Should be uploaded by the time of this teleconference. • Note: Did not get a confirmation email, tried again with an error - already there. The chair will monitor to be sure our comments are posted, after the ACMA close on this consultation. • After this teleconference, the chair did receive confirmation from ACMA our comments are their okay. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  13. General Discussion Items • March Plenary, Monday night Tutorial, 18:30 – 19:50. • Spectrum .... Be Prepared for Sharing http://www.ieee802.org/Tutorials.shtml • ABSTRACT: This tutorial will focus on • Various spectrum bands being considered by the FCC for commercial use – e. g. 3.4 GHz to 4.2 GHz, 6 GHz, Ku/ Ka, Spectrum Frontiers, Spectrum Horizons etc. Majority of these bands will require sharing with federal users • Provide insights on spectrum sharing and why it is important. • Spectrum Sharing today – TV White Spaces, 3.5 GHz CBRS. • Spectrum Sharing tomorrow. Federal and Commercial Dynamic and Cognitive Sharing • Technologies needed to make spectrum sharing a reality • Why IEEE 802 community needs to be involved • Launch of a Technical Interest Group within IEEE 802 to look into standardizing various technologies • Not part of the tutorial, though this may be of interest to some: a multi-year Spectrum Collaboration Challenge: • https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/spectrum-collaboration-challenge-sc2 Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  14. Actions Required • Nothing specific at this time. • Info: • Latest Cisco VNI 2018-2022 networking trends, updated 21Feb19. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/white-paper-c11-738429.pdf Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  15. Any Other Business • None Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  16. Adjourn • Next teleconference:28 Feb 2019 – 15:00 – <15:55 ET • Call in info: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/16/18-16-0038-11-0000-teleconference-call-in-info.pptx(or latest) • Note: If the call-in link doesn’t work send the Chair an email right away. • All changes/cancellations will be sent out to the 802.18 list server. • Adjourn: • Agenda complete, any objection to Adjourn. • None heard, we are Adjourned at 15:47 ET • The next face to face meeting of the 802.18 RR-TAG will be at the IEEE 802 11-15 March 19 the Plenary in the Hyatt Regency Vancouver and Fairmont Hotel Vancouver, Vancouver, BC, Canada • Time slots, Tuesday AM2 and Thursday AM1 • Note: this Plenary has Fellowship attendees; • Monday AM2 is the 802.18 tutorial for them. • Thank You Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  17. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Thank You • Reference, links to EU sites: • Bran: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=287&SubTB=287 • ERM TG-11: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=442&SubTB=442 • CEPT SE45: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-se/se-45/client/introduction/ • CEPT FM57: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-fm/fm-57/client/introduction/ • OJEU: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/oj/direct-access.html • HS: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/ Back up and/or previous slides follow

  18. General Discussion Items -4 • Sharing and license-exempt • A study on feasibility and next steps toward a Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM). • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1386-00-0wng-ngsm-next-generation-spectrum-management.pptx • 802.11 San Diego WGN proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0060-02-0000-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx • Bi-directional sharing • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • This came up in the IEEE 802 LeaderCon session in July and the 802.18 chair along with others have an action item to look at this more. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  19. General Discussion Items -4a of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-1 of 3 • The Commission’s Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) is requesting comment on the report for Phase I of tests performed to evaluate potential sharing solutions between the proposed Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) devices and Dedicated Short Range Communications (DSRC) operations in the 5850-5925 MHz (U-NII-4) frequency band. The attached report provides a detailed summary of the testing methodology, measurements, and observations. • Request for comments: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0140-00-0000-phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4-devices.docx • Report: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0141-00-0000-phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4-devices-report.pdf • Proceeding: • https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=13-49&sort=date_disseminated,DESC • https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-requests-comment-59-ghz-phase-i-testing-data • Comment Date: 28 November 2018 • EC vote 16nov, or do reply comments. • Reply Comments Date: 13 December 2018 Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  20. General Discussion Items -4b of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-2 of 3 • As summarized in the report, we found the prototype devices reliably detected DSRC signals. The report includes the results of the evaluation of the Wi-Fi sharing techniques since one of the proposed band sharing methods would require re-channelization of the DSRC spectrum. In brief, the test results show that the prototype U-NII-4 devices were able to detect a co-channel DSRC signal and implement post detection steps as claimed by the submitters. • Knowing history, can we get agreement on points to comment on? • What would they be? • Detect and vacate mentioned above, is not covering if there is any harmful interference. • Mitigation seems to still be open. • DOT will be the judge on safety of transportation. They get the say what is needed. The report is just a testing report, and not on the safety of transportation. • O’Reily’s comment does not consider there is CV2X, C-V2X, …. …. coming along now, that is being discussed elsewhere. • In the end for those on the earlier call, not looking like there is interest for IEEE 802 to comment. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  21. General Discussion Items -4c of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-3 of 3 • Statement of commissioner Michael O’Rielly on 5.9 GHz phase I testing data • DOC-354831A1.docxDOC-354831A1.pdfDOC-354831A1.txt • While I appreciate release of the 5.9 GHz Phase I testing data, the results are not all that surprising given the simple questions posed. The reality is that the entire debate has gravitated away from the type of sharing regime envisioned in the testing.  Instead, the Commission should move past this and initiate a rulemaking to reallocate at least 45 megahertz of the band, which is completely unused today for automobile safety • Commissioner Rosenworcel on phase I test report of prototype U-N-II-4 devices. • DOC-354830A1.docxDOC-354830A1.pdfDOC-354830A1.txt • “Nearly two years after the deadline for completing a three-phase test plan to determine whether auto safety and Wi-Fi can share the 5.9 GHz band, this agency is releasing the results of its lab testing. These results are long overdue. But we need to do more than just make our work public. We need to start a rulemaking to take a fresh look at this band and its real possibilities.” Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  22. Potential reference document when doing comments • Note: in the 802.19 co-existence <1 GHz meeting it was brought up for IEEE 802 as a whole to put together a document on basic spectrum parameters that would be good for all IEEE 802 standards to co-exist (less interference….) • Actually, need to have this for all IEEE 802 to just work in the spectrum, e.g. BWs needed. Not just coexistence. • Point being that 802.18 can refer to / use when responding to regulators on different consultations, to encourage regulators in general to configure their spectrum to allow all the IEEE 802 standards in a more consistent/friendly way. • For the many in attendance, it was felt many regulators would appreciate at least knowing this. • Additional point to add to the doc, duty cycle is not for the protocol/standard/amendment being discussed, it is a regulation to allow others (and their packet lengths) to have access to the spectrum. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  23. Fellowship Request • Fellowship request on reaching out to all regulators. • Enhancing Collaboration between IEEE 802 and World Regulators on unlicensed spectrum regulations • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-0580-01-coex-enhancing-collaboration-between-ieee-802-and-world-regulators-on-unlicensed-spectrum-regulations.pptx • Thursday: • A start is to keep in touch with the fellowship attendees. • They are welcome to our meetings and calls. • Could something be added to the IEEE newsletter/communication for the regulators, to answer the news letter input? • Can IEEE be more pro-active with some of the other (e.g. regional) regulators? • The challenge is to ID which we can, and being a volunteer / individual organization, the time and money from the volunteers? • Many regulators don’t have IEEE has a point of contact like they do with WFA or other implementing orgs do. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

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