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IEEE 802.11 Wireless Interworking with External Networks (WIEN) Study Group

IEEE 802.11 Wireless Interworking with External Networks (WIEN) Study Group. San Antonio 16 th November 2004 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor stephen.mccann@roke.co.uk. 16 November 2004, 7.30pm – 9.30pm. Call to Order Sign in sheet & attendance Secretary

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IEEE 802.11 Wireless Interworking with External Networks (WIEN) Study Group

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  1. IEEE 802.11 Wireless Interworking with External Networks (WIEN) Study Group San Antonio 16th November 2004 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor stephen.mccann@roke.co.uk Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  2. 16 November 2004,7.30pm – 9.30pm • Call to Order • Sign in sheet & attendance • Secretary • Review IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures • Intellectual Property • Voting • All Registered Meeting Attendees May Vote • All Main Motions require 75% • Attendance • Study Group Attendance List • On-line Attendance reminder Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  3. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  4. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings • Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions • Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share • Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  5. Study Groups Function The function of a Study Group (SG) is to complete a defined task with specific output and in a specific time frame. Once this task is complete, the function of the SG is complete and its charter expires. The normal function of a SG is to draft a complete PAR and five criteria (see subclause 9.2) and to gain approval for them at WG 802.11, 802 EC, IEEE New Standards Committee (NesCom) and the IEEE Standards Board. The decision of whether to utilize the 802.11 WG or to establish a new WG or TAG to carry out work items recommended by a SG is made by the 802 EC with advice from the 802.11 WG. • Formation • A SG is formed when sufficient interest has been identified for a particular area of study within the scope of WG 802.11. The first step in the process is a call for interest. Any WG member or observer can make this at the WG 802.11 opening plenary. An 802.11 SG can then be initiated by 75% approval of the 802.11 WG and must be approved by the 802 EC. During this approval process the 802 EC decides whether a SG is within the scope of WG 802.11, should be moved to another WG or should be set up as an Executive Committee Study Group. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  6. Continuation • A SG exists for up to 6 months. If it has not completed its work within that time, a request must be made to the WG for an extension for up to additional 6 months. Any request for SG extension will be voted upon at the WG 802.11 closing plenary. • Study Group Operation • SG follow the operating procedures for TG specified above with the following exceptions detailed below: • Study Group Meetings • SG meetings held adjunct to 802.11 WG Plenary or Interim sessions count towards 802.11 WG voting rights • Voting at Study Group Meetings • Any person attending a SG meeting may participate in SG discussions, make motions and vote on all motions (including recommending approval of a PAR and five criteria). • Attendance List • Since SGs may have members who are not part of the parent WG, a separate attendance list must be maintained for the meetings of the SG and will be submitted as a document to the WG Vice-Chair. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  7. Meeting Etiquette "Individuals are to address the comments of others only, not the person" Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  8. Agenda • Tuesday November 16 19:30 – 21:30 • IEEE Policies and Procedures • Overview of last meeting (incl. open issues review) • Minutes from September Berlin meeting (1113, 1150) • PAR (506r9) and 5 Criteria (507r3) overview • Standardization & other bodies: • SSCAN • 3GPP2 • Technical Presentations • Roadmap discussion for SG/TG Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  9. Agenda • Wednesday November 17 08:00 – 10:00 • 1st Hour ad-hoc session for review • Formal WIEN SG review Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  10. Objective of this session • Discussion and creation of requirements and down selection criteria documents for proposed Task Group • Produce roadmap for Study Group/Task Group • Address open issues list • Review ‘netsel’ IETF internet-draft Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  11. IETF Review Document • “EAP Network Discovery and Selection Problem Description Document” http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-eap-netsel-problem-02.txt Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  12. Motion Move to request that the IEEE 802.11 Working Group extend the (WIEN) Study Group for another 6 months. Moved:Stephen McCann Second:Mike Moreton Result:24,0,0 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  13. Motion • Move to authorise the WIEN SG chair to draft a liaison letter to the IETF and forward this letter to the IEEE 802.11 working group, said letter to include the following issues: • ·        Scope of future work and division of problems between IETF and IEEE 802.11 ·        Specific pre-association information • ·Beacon Issues. • Mover : Mike Moreton • Second : Dorothy Stanley • Result: 22,0,1 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  14. Motion to Amend 802.11u PAR Title • In order to clarify the efforts of the new 802.11u Task Group and align those efforts with 802.21 WG, the title of the document, item 4 of the PAR be changed to: “Amendment to Standard [for] Information Technology – Telecommunications and information exchange between systems –Local and Metropolitan networks –specific requirements –Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) specifications: IEEE 802.11 Interworking with External Networks” Proposed: Stephen McCann Seconder: Charles Wright Results: 11,1,14 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  15. Motion to amend PAR Similar Scope 802.21 WG feels that the following change would help to address the Similar Scope in relation to 802.11 WIEN PAR. It is therefore moved to change the final paragraph of section 16 of the PAR from: • “It is worth noting that an agreement has been made between IEEE 802.21 and IEEE 802.11 WIEN SG to co-ordinate in avoiding any overlap in their scopes” • To “It is worth noting that an agreement has been made between IEEE 802.21 and IEEE 802.11 WIEN SG for an ongoing formal co-ordination in order to avoid any overlap in their scopes” • Proposed : Stephen McCann • Seconded: David Hunter • Result: 11,0,16 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

  16. Motion Move to approve the PAR document IEEE 802.11-04/506r10, and 5 Criteria document IEEE 802.11-04/507r4, for the WIEN Study Group, and forward to ExCom for Approval Moved by Stephen McCann Second: Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

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