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Explore the collaborative dental outreach initiatives between Dundee, Glasgow, and Aberdeen, improving student learning and clinical experiences in different locations. Gain insights into the program's structure, staff composition, quality assurance, and student interactions. Discover how peer teaching and shared clinics benefit dental education in Scotland.
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The View from Dundee, with a Glasgow/Aberdeen Collaboration Andrew Hall
Inverness (2008) Aberdeen (2006) Arbroath (2006) Dundee KX (2008) Perth (2010) St Andrews (2009) Cupar (2008)
Local Outreach (day visits) • Dundee Kings Cross • 2 miles 4 chairs • Arbroath • 15 miles 4 chairs • St Andrews • 20 miles 4 chairs • Cupar • 20 miles 4 chairs • Perth • 25 miles 5 chairs
Distance Outreach (week blocks) • Inverness • 120 miles 6 chairs • Aberdeen • 70 miles 8 chairs DUNDEE Edinburgh Glasgow
Summary stats 2009 • 39 outreach chairs • 65 students • 32 weeks (plus 6 weeks 4th year) • Av BDS student experience = 64 days (12.5 weeks) • Av Therapy student experience = 38 days (8 weeks)
Basic facilities • Chair, light, LDU, computer etc • Access to radiology equipment • No paper-based notes • Mostly digital radiography
From the small….. Kings Cross Dundee
To a bit bigger…… Inverness
How much work do students do? June – December 2008
SDS Staff Senior dental officers Locum staff University staff A Hall (weekly) B Watt (daily – admin) WP Saunders (twice) JR Radford (weekly) Who works there?
Why no University staff? • Too busy • Too far away • Need additional contract • Need Occ Health Clearance (and injections) • Don’t want to be away from home • Nothing to do with me – but they will have to do it the Dundee way • I can’t do that type of clinical work x
Quality assurance • Student questionnaires • Staff questionnaires • Patient questionnaires • National Outreach Days (pan Scotland) • It’s our turn next • Dundee Clinical outreach days
Working with other schools • Good links between Dundee and Glasgow and Aberdeen • Many staff have worked in at least two institutions, some in all three. • Familiarity with teaching methods and clinical teaching
Teaching policies Glasgow 2000 Dundee 2008
Helping each other out • Outreach / Clinical dentistry in Scotland • Not Glasgow vs Dundee vs Aberdeen • 2008-2009 Glasgow have a big year and insufficient Outreach available • 2009-2010 Dundee have a big year • Aberdeen need clinical facilities before the new school building opens
Inverness + UHI • 14 chairs • 6 BDS and 8 BSc (Dental therapy with UHI) • Therapists don’t start clinic until Jan 09 • NHS Highland has huge access problems • Sept 08 - Dec 08 • 12 BDS students (6 Glasgow, 6 Dundee) • Jan 09 – May 09 • 6 BDS students (Glasgow) • Sept 09 – • 6 BDS students (Dundee)
B&B (£26pppn) 3 eggs max at breakfast
Dundee & Glasgow on the same clinic • Start with 6 chairs • Students in pairs – 1 Dundee and 1 Glasgow • Taught different things • Different strengths • Peer teaching (psst …. try it this way!) • Develop to 12 chairs • Dundee side and Glasgow side • Some social interaction • Glasgow there for more time than Dundee
Dundee & Glasgow on the same clinic !!!!! • Benefits • Genuine student interaction • Keen to demonstrate what they know • Easier to learn from a fellow student • Problems • Outreach staff are ‘nice’ • Academic staff – less so • More sensitivity is required when teaching students from another school. • Easy to be critical of what students say
Dundee and Aberdeen • Dundee Outreach clinic at Aberdeen • 1st yr BDS Aberdeen with 5th yr BDS Dundee • Good peer teaching • Too many students at Aberdeen (8 chairs) • 8 Dundee students (+ 6 from Inverness Jan 08) • 2 Dundee Therapy students • 8 Aberdeen BDS students • 24 STUDENTS IN AN 8 CHAIR CLINIC
Collaboration is good …but it should be planned rather than a necessity …dental students don’t need more than 3 eggs for breakfast