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HE to CV Making sense of the choices and maximising your clients’ chances of a graduate job

HE to CV Making sense of the choices and maximising your clients’ chances of a graduate job. Anne-Marie Martin Director of The Careers Group, University of London and President. Agenda. Current Scene Researching the post school/college options Being employable Resources

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HE to CV Making sense of the choices and maximising your clients’ chances of a graduate job

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  1. HE to CVMaking sense of the choices and maximising your clients’ chances of a graduate job Anne-Marie Martin Director of The Careers Group, University of London and President

  2. Agenda • Current Scene • Researching the post school/college options • Being employable • Resources • AGCAS – here to help

  3. Fees Fuss Browne proposed an elegant solution to the problem of making Universities financially sustainable His proposals were wrecked Current proposal • Government will give loans to all (ft and pt) to cover fees • Fees will be £6K to £9K pa (up from current £3.29K) • HEIs charging more than £6K will need ‘access agreements’ • Loan will not be paid back until earning £21,000 • Starts for the intake of Sept 2012

  4. The Good News • Nobody will have to pay before or during their University education • Nobody will pay anything back before they are earning £21,000 • Part-time students are eligible for loans • Scholarships and Maintenance Support • Students in the driving seat .. but

  5. Undiscerning Consumers • Students believe the hype • Don’t do much research • They have always been ill informed and have a somewhat simplistic view of the world • So not sure it’s a really great idea to let them become the drivers of University Education • Which is why we need your help

  6. How much debt is your degree worth? Graduate unemployment at highest level for 17 years Degrees and despair: graduates gloomy about jobs Is a degree worth it?

  7. The graduate premium “ I think some graduates earn more than non – graduates but the majority do not. Some graduates who do teaching, medicine, veterinary, dentistry, health related professions have to go to university, most of those people earn more than non–graduates. I think 10% of graduates get access to graduate training schemes, they will earn substantially more than non–graduates. The other people who graduate and work in small medium sized companies may earn more than non–graduates. The rest will work in non–graduate jobs and whether they earn more or not will depend on many factors which may or may not be related to whether they have a degree or not.”

  8. But what is a good job • Future prospects (promotion and job security) • Job content (difficulty, interest, prestige and independence) • Interpersonal relationships. • Pay • Hours of work (overwork, underwork, flexible) • How useful or helpful the job is

  9. A word about ‘non-graduate’ jobs “I am Andrew Gunning - a fully qualified plumbing, heating, and gas engineer. I am City & Guilds trained and Gas Safe Registered.”

  10. Knowing Me Knowing You Knowing themselves Choosing the institution Choosing their subject/course

  11. Subject/Course • Career Plans – will it really help? • What did previous graduates do? • What skills will I acquire • Options Series from Graduate Prospects/AGCAS • What Do Graduates Do? • Destination Data • Professional Bodies

  12. Making Sense of Employability Data • Media Coverage almost never tells the full story • Current Unistats Site

  13. Sassy Sources • http://www.hesa.ac.uk • Performance indicators (benchmarked) • http://www.prospects.ac.uk • http://www.scottishdegrees.com/ • http://www.london.gov.uk/graduates/

  14. Sealed with a KIS Institutions must provide transparent information to help people choose the right course. Institutions will be required to publish a Key Information Set (known as KIS) for every Course

  15. KIS • Satisfaction with the Course – 10 items from NSS • Learning and Teaching methods used • Assessment methods used • DLHE primary outcomes • Percentage of those employed in graduate jobs • Average full-time salary • Professional Bodies that recognise course • Cost of halls of residence • Bursaries available • Turn out at Student Union election • Number of clubs and societies run by Student Union

  16. Salaries included in Unistats from Summer 2011 • upper quartile, median and lower quartile for the subject at the institution of interest • upper quartile, median and lower quartile for the subject across all institutions • upper quartile, median and lower quartile for the subject across all institutions at 40 months (this figure to be derived from the Longitudinal DLHE survey). • When comparing courses only the medians will show

  17. The More the Merrier • Open Days • Students, Graduates, employers, academics, admissions tutors, professional bodies • Social Networks • Case Studies on websites (www.prospects.ac.uk) • AGCAS DVDs: Journey to Work • Visit if they can

  18. Please Help • Effective research skills • Networking Ability

  19. Grammar, spelling, character • Communication • Teamwork • Drive • Self confidence • Commercial Awareness • Cultural Awareness • Leadership Potential

  20. Start of the journey • Volunteer • Gain Work Experience • Gather Skills • Practise describing them • Contact Careers Service early • Watch out for employer engagement activities • Student Life

  21. Feedback from TCG Parents Course 'It seems these days that a degree is the key to a decent job but it takes other skills to get that key in the lock and turned'

  22. The Parents’ Lament  Employers want intelligent, team players with leadership potential who can hit the ground running with lots of relevant experience and a top class degree. How do we support students trying to cope with academic work, part-time work, CV enhancing activities, preparation for interviews, assessment centres, psychometric tests etc. and have a life? Increasingly it’s those with the best non-academic experiences and competencies that stand out in the recruitment process, but it’s our natural inclination (and has been since infant school) to tell our offspring that ‘school work comes first’. A degree may open doors, but you need a lot more to ensure they don’t slam back in your face. 

  23. Happy to Help • You educate, inform, advise, guide current and prospective students and graduates about all aspects of careers and employability • AGCAS provides resources to keep you up-to-date and to use with your clients • Professional development, networking – real and virtual • Find us on stand 101

  24. Stand 101 • Presentation • Newsletter • www.agcas.org.uk • Chris.Jackson@agcas.org.uk • Anne-Marie.Martin@careers.lon.ac.uk

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