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CSI – Southeast Plant Diagnostics

CSI – Southeast Plant Diagnostics . Presented By: Tony Glover Regional Extension Agent – Birmingham Alabama. CSI - Plant Diagnostics. involves real detective work. How planted? Type of plant? Site - soil? Origin of plants? When planted? Weather? Recent activity? Etc, etc, etc. Who?

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CSI – Southeast Plant Diagnostics

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  1. CSI – Southeast Plant Diagnostics Presented By: Tony Glover Regional Extension Agent – Birmingham Alabama

  2. CSI - Plant Diagnostics involves real detective work. How planted? Type of plant? Site - soil? Origin of plants? When planted? Weather? Recent activity? Etc, etc, etc Who? What? Where? When? Why?

  3. Some Guiding Principles • Avoid jumping to conclusions. • First, determine if a real problem exist. • Identify the plant and determine what is normal for that plant species/cultivar.

  4. What is normal for the plant? • Always compare the plant of concern with a healthy or normal plant. • Normal plant parts or seasonal changes are sometimes mistakenly assumed to be evidence of pest.

  5. What is normal for the plant? • Always compare the plant of concern with a healthy or normal plant. • Normal plant parts or seasonal changes are sometimes mistakenly assumed to be evidence of disease. Spores on fern could be mistaken for insect eggs or disease.

  6. For instance: • “My pecan tree has thousands of green worms hanging from the branches. This is the first spring I have seen this problem.” What question should we be asking

  7. Sample line of questioning. • Have you seen these “worms” close up? “No” • Can you reach them to examine? “Too High” • Do they seem to be eating foliage? “Can’t tell but doesn’t look like it” • How old is this tree – has it made a pecan crop in the past? “8 years old – no it has never made a pecan” Any ideas out there?

  8. Example of a non-problem. • This was a real question I had. • Turned out to be the male flower – Catkin. • You may get this question about other normal plant parts or seasonal changes.

  9. But how do I know what to ask? • A good place to start is with your states Extension Plant Problem Submission form – The questions on the form can help you get started asking the right questions.

  10. Tips on asking questions. • Ask lots of questions that cannot be answered – yes or no. • Take good notes while talking. • Repeat what they said back to them for clarity.

  11. Other questions…… • What is the plant? • What does it normally look like? • Describe what looks abnormal to you. • What is the overall health of the plant – surrounding plants? • Describe what other plants of same type and different type in area looks like. • When did symptoms start? • How severe is the problem? • What does the client think may be wrong?

  12. What if you reach a dead end without a reasonable answer? You may need to coach a client on gathering more information or collecting a good sample to bring in. Photos are helpful when done correctly and may help avoid a trip to the office.

  13. Tips on taking a good photo. • Only quality photos are helpful. • Place something of known size in the picture. • Take close ups using the close up setting on camera (place item in photo for size comparison). More – next slide

  14. Tips on taking a good photo – continued. • Show good and bad areas and the transition zone. • Take multiple photos of plants showing close up, intermediary, and distance views. • Multiple angles – also show base of plant with mulch pulled back – trunk from various angles.

  15. Some Guiding Principles(once it is determined a real problem exist) • Just like with human health problems there may be multiple things causing a given symptom but signs are often more definitive .

  16. Symptom vs SignLearn the difference and look for both Symptoms Signs Evidence of a pathogen* Insect or other pest* Observed mechanical damage (mower damage, lightning) Chemical residue Secretions from the plant Damage pattern Recent weather records (severe freeze, late frost, hail storm, etc) (*classic technical definition of biotic signs highlighted) • Changes in growth • Changes in appearance • Dead plant parts • Etc Symptoms are not definitive and usually very general!

  17. Two sources of plant problems. Abiotic Non-living sources Biotic Living sources

  18. Environment Plant Abiotic – How a plant interacts with the environment.

  19. Environment Plant Abiotic Problems Wind Rain Hail pH Temp

  20. Examples of abiotic concerns • Temperature (extremes and rapid change) • Site problems (soil type, topography) • Nutritional deficiencies • High soluble salts (excessive fertilizer) • pH (too alkaline or too acidic) • Pesticide (improper application, drift or contaminated compost/soil) • Compaction issues • Air pollution • Sunburn or sunscald • Light issues • Other weather – wind, lightning, etc • Hail damage • Compromised root - girdling, trenching, etc • Mechanical injury • Etc, etc, etc

  21. Generally speaking • 80 % of woody landscape plant problems are abiotic vs 20% biotic

  22. Some Guiding Principles • 80 % of woody landscape plant problems are abiotic vs 20% biotic. • Moisture problems make up 70% of abiotic problems on young woody plants.

  23. Some Guiding Principles • 80 % of woody landscape plant problems are abioticvs 20% biotic. • Moisture problems make up 70% of abiotic problems. • 91.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot. (I will pause for laughter)

  24. Abiotic Causes of Plant Problems • Seriously, water really is the number one abiotic problem. (Abiotic means non-living)

  25. Abiotic Causes of Plant Problems (Abiotic means non-living) You are dying because of too much….. or maybe not enough water

  26. Abiotic Causes of Plant Problems I love this job (Abiotic means non-living) Maybe not always this easy but it is a good place to start. Talk to the client about how the plant was planted and it’s aftercare.

  27. Biotic Problems • Disease causing organisms • Insects • Mites • Pets • Birds • Other critters • People (a lot of abiotic problems are due to cultural practices)

  28. Biotic Pathogens of Plants Living Nematodes Fungi Bacteria Viruses

  29. ‘Disease Triangle’ Environment Plant Disease Pathogen

  30. Telling the difference: abiotic vs. biotic Symptom Progression • Biotic disease – symptoms usually progress and nearby plants of the same species may become infected in time. • Abiotic disease – generally do not show signs of progression and does not spread. • Exception – nutritional deficiency symptoms may progress slowly mimicking a disease Abiotic disease – Herbicide Injury May look like a viral disease but normally do not progress or spread to other plants or plant parts – some soil active herbicides may show progression.

  31. Telling the difference - continued Look or ask about patterns. Patterns of damage are excellent clues. • Uniform – generally abiotic. • Random – generally biotic. Marginal frost damage on bermudagrass – interesting but fairly uniform pattern.

  32. Telling the difference…… Determine prevalence of the problem. • Large area, all plants, multiple species impacted – generally points to abiotic cause. • Scattered, localized damage or symptoms – generally biotic. In this case an ammonia gas was accidentally released in the area and burned the foliage of all plants in the bed

  33. Observation of field patterns.Random pattern often indicates biotic problems but nutrient deficiency or poor planting may cause a false assumption. Oak - Nutrient Deficiency Deficiencies are usually gradual and Does not always indicate a soil deficiency. Planting problem may lead to a deficiency Boxwood Phytophthora Root Rot Biotic condition shows randomness

  34. Observation of field patterns. What do you think?

  35. Observation of field patterns Dog Urine Spots Random Damage Case File msw-1984 Dogs are biotic pest – urine spots

  36. Observation of field patternsRandom vs. Uniform Random Uniform

  37. Observation of field patternsRandom vs. Uniform Random Patches - Biotic Uniform Stripes - Abiotic Bermuda spring dead spot Fertilizer application problems – drop spreader

  38. Is the damage limited to one species? • One or related species – often biotic. • Multiple plant species - often abiotic (example: freeze damage or herbicide drift). Fireblight on pear

  39. Critical steps to diagnose problems. Know the Plant (or learn about it) Determine what the plant is – even knowing which cultivar/variety could provide a useful clue. Research common problems of the plant/family. (check Extension pubs, Ortho Problem Solver, Southern Living Answer book, Internet, etc) For example: • Red Maple – Phyllosticta Leaf Spot, gloomy scale. • Flowering Dogwood – Powdery mildew, spot anthracnose. • Leyland Cypress – Canker diseases. • Pear – Fire blight. • Rose – Blackspot.

  40. Does this look like a disease, insect pest or herbicide damage? Do you know the plant?

  41. Does this look like a disease, insect pest or herbicide damage? Know the plant: Leopard plant – Ligularia Knowing the plant is a major clue in this case.

  42. Other steps in diagnoses • Discuss cultural practices. • Explore recent activities. • Think about recent and sometimes past weather events or trends. • Site conditions. • Soil type – suggest test.

  43. Tip: for young woody plants (1-5 years in the ground)many problems result from poor planting, poor location, time planted and immediate aftercare. What problems do you see?

  44. At Least 3 Mistakes Clearly Evident: • 1. Burlap still on trunk. • 2. Soil is in very poor condition. • 3. Can’t tell proper depth w/out a closer look at the rootball. Reminder to self: Leyland Cypress call

  45. Symptom: Poor growth • Full sun exposure • South side of tree • Young tree

  46. Diagnosis: likely sunscald (could be mechanical damage) • Full sun exposure • South side of tree • Young tree

  47. Remember: stressed trees are more pest prone – example of abiotic problem leading to biotic pest Maple Scale

  48. Base of the same maple tree with scale. • Abiotic concerns • Root girdling • Freeze/thaw damage • Small root area • Heat island in parking lot • Red maple – likes wet sites Biotic problem of scale is secondary in nature

  49. Leyland Cypress Problems Another instance where an abiotic problem (drought) caused a biotic disease (canker) – Knowing the plant and it’s common problems helps you reach a quicker diagnosis

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